Today, Tavern Keepers broke the story of the claims made by the founders of the “Truckers Ride for the Constitution” that Pete Santilli, the former “Media Spokesperson” for the group, and the founder of “Guerilla Media,” “hijacked” the group’s website and Facebook page.
Tavern Keepers reached out several times to Santilli. He responded via Twitter today:
— Pete Santilli (@SantilliMan) October 15, 2013
Pete Santilli addressed the claims today on his radio show by agreeing that indeed, he did cut off the founders of the movement. And he explained why. The main issues seem to be:
- Allegations that Santilli was stealing money from the truckers were repeated on the official Twitter account.
- Zeeda did not meet Rep. Louie Gohmert at the World War II memorial with the truckers.
Zeeda and Santilli never seemed to properly discuss these issues, publicly or privately.
Santilli did not mention Ben Pam, who has been mostly a silent founder of the movement. But he had plenty to say about Zeeda Andrews, who is still prominently featured on the Ride for the Constitution website.
At issue in particular seems to be rumors that were sadly repeated by an unvetted supporter who ran the organization’s Twitter account and repeated a rumor that Santilli stole money from the truckers. Pete Santilli is right to be concerned about this.
He tweeted today,
— Pete Santilli (@SantilliMan) October 15, 2013
But his anger seems to be misdirected at Zeeda, who is guilty perhaps only of being too trusting. The audio that Santilli produced highlighted a defensive Zeeda, who was clearly intimidated by the outspoken host. But she agreed that Santilli did not have access to the donations given for fuel for the truckers. She said on Santilli’s show, and to the author, that she has receipts for the funds.
Today, Zeeda told Tavern Keepers that not only does she have receipts, she also has a list of the truckers who received fuel.
Santilli’s producer Susannah Cole said that during the time leading up to the “Ride for the Constitution,” there were “organizational problems” but clarified that it was “not us,” (referring to the team at Pete’s organization, “Guerilla Media,”) and said Guerilla Media “pulled together” to make sure information went out to America.
Speaking of the truckers, Susannah Cole said “you guys did an awesome job.” Santilli said that the press was telling people that it was “raining,” and “things were going to blow up” in Washington, D.C. if people showed up. Despite all this, he said the truckers showed up and did a great job. Santilli is absolutely correct. The mainstream media did not present this event favorably, which is to be expected.
Santilli noted that police officers actually “stood down” for the Veterans in Washington when they removed the barricades from the World War II memorial and delivered them to the White House, but that did not make it to the mainstream media. If this is true, what a wonderful story!
Santilli started to promote 21st Century Wire, which was founded by Patrick Henningsen, who wrote a very positive article about the truckers for Russia Today. 21st Century Wire also is heavily promoted at the Truckers Ride for the Constitution website.
They went on hot mic during several of the breaks. During the second break, they called “Shea,” one of the truckers who was at Washington this past weekend and asked her to wait while Pete made his “very big announcement.” Shea told Santilli that she was “outraged”. Pete told her to control her outrage – and said that General Lee is now in charge of Ride for the Constitution. During the time they were on hot mic, Susannah Cole said that they need to “fend off some of the bad stuff put out by the Trucker community.” This point was disputed a bit.
When he returned, Santilli announced that he set up a new page on Facebook, The “Million Marine March.” As a Marine himself, he said he is “willing to lay my life on the line” for the cause. He emphasized “God, Country and Marine Corps.” He said “blood may be shed.” He said that first, we will make “every attempt” to be peaceful. He said he is going to hold Rupert Murdoch accountable. He said we would “punch him the f—– balls.”
Hot mic again. This time he says, “I know exactly how I’m going to do this, Susannah.” He said to Shea, “You and I are going to have a conversation, just speak from the heart.” They emphasized that Shea is the voice of the truckers. Susanna told Shea to speak about why she went for the patriot truckers ride “in the first place.”
Back to the show. Pete Santilli again stressed “God, country and the Marine Corps,” and said that we are going to “ban together” with all of these organizations to “build momentum” to use every effort to be peaceful. His passion is admirable.
Shea came on and gave a very nice tribute to the truckers and said that “America is finally waking up.” Pete Santilli spoke again about how the media controlled the “pace of people getting onto the streets,” by reporting about the weather and even possible threats aimed at the truckers. Shea confirmed that her convoy participated fully and were dedicated.
Santilli said that there is “some evil entity” circulating “rumors.” It is true that there have been ridiculous rumors. Shea said that the media is supposed to be “upholding the Constitution, too.” Pete mentioned the rumor that he stole money from the truckers. He said he would give anyone “one million dollars” if they could prove he did such a thing. From the beginning, Zeeda made it clear that the donation site was completely controlled by her, and Shea confirmed that she saw people who benefited from the donations, although she did not personally have help with fuel for her truck.
Back to hot mic. Santilli said to Shea,
“General Lee is going to come on and handle all of those things.” He said, “She’s just buried herself, it is ridiculous. There were serious decisions made before we went on air, and you need to stay very close to General Lee, he is going to be your point of contact.”
Shea provided her personal email during the break.
While still on hot mic, Susannah Cole said that it is important to stress that ”The truckers will be managing the site from here on out. Because it is their movement.” Through this event, Santilli said he had many hits to the Truckers main website.
Is it right to take over the website and the Facebook page? Do the founders of the movement have no say here?
The 2 Million Bikers tweeted out today’s story from Tavern Keepers.
Here was Santilli’s response:
— Pete Santilli (@SantilliMan) October 15, 2013
After the break, Santilli said if “you are in the mainstream media, and you are reporting anything against me,” speaking of one “specific website,” He said, “we will take it’s balls and put it in my bank account.” Hmm.
“There is a conspiracy, it’s coming…guess what, whether you like it or not… I am not going to scream today…” He again discussed “punching people in the balls.” Santilli said that over the weekend, he picked up “millions of listeners,” because people are “hungry” for information.
He said that this morning, somebody “made a stupid move by going public.” He was clearly speaking of Zeeda.
He said that he has “proof” that everything out there is fabricated. He was speaking at this time specifically of Susanne Posel, who evidently used to work with Santelli. To journalists who spread false information, Santilli said he would “sue your f’ing balls off.” He said that Posel was being paid by Hillary Clinton and that he could not sue her, because she is on “food stamps.”
He said that “one thing we did” before the weekend, was to tell founder of the Truckers Ride for the Constitution, Zeeda Andrews: “don’t make a mistake and go public,” but it was unclear what he it was specifically that he did not want her to say. Although he was clearly (and justifiably) angry that some have accused him of stealing money, Zeeda herself never made that claim.
He said he “would literally sue your balls off” if a journalist attempted to lie about him. It seems that Santilli could benefit to mix up his phrases. Just a suggestion.
He said that he will “push play” on “Zeeda’s recordings,” speaking of the donations. He said “No money needed to go through Zeeda” and “General Lee knows about all of it.” He said, “I have it 100% legally and factually backed up.”
Pete said that he believes that Hillary Clinton is paying journalists. Addressing journalists who lie (for Hillary Clinton),
“You f—ed with the wrong person.”
He said “now we have a situation” with Susanne Posel and Vinnie Eastwood (who claimed that Santilli stole money). Santilli said, “they think they are going to win this, they are not going to.”
As previously mentioned by Tavern Keepers,
“A supporter of the movement, Dena Lattanzi Fleming, was recruited to man the Twitter site.”
Zeeda did not oversee Twitter, and gave Dena free reign to run the tweets. Zeeda trusted Dena, and Dena posted some negative tweets about Santilli. Santilli has an absolutely valid complaint, as people should not be posting accusations without evidence.
“At this point, I am going to say that Zeeda did not have the ‘business wherewithal…’”
This was a grassroots movement that quickly grew massive. Zeeda and Ben accepted all the help they could get. But as Zeeda said today, the way that Pete was going with the mission did not necessarily align with her vision. This seems to be a core part of the problem.
Santilli played an audio recording of Zeeda saying on Friday that $16,000 dollars was collected and she said it went to fuel for the Truckers. Santilli said he didn’t want to show any division. He again mentioned General Lee.
Speaking of Zeeda, Susannah Cole said,
“In the background, we are dealing with a person that is lying to us.” Susannah said that “We got reports from the truckers that Zeeda pulled over the truckers to get a photo opportunity.” Zeeda ”blew it off [the opportunity to meet with Rep. Gohmert] for a photo op.”
“Zeeda is telling a lie”
Santilli said that Zeeda did not bring the truckers to the World War II memorial. In an audio recording, Zeeda explained that the truckers could not go into the area because she was worried that they would be arrested.
Zeeda told Tavern Keepers that the reason the truckers pulled over was because they were pulled over repeatedly by the police. “All for one, and one for all,” she said, as when one trucker was pulled over, all of them followed suit. Zeeda was adamant that pulling over was not about a photo op. The idea to present Rep. Gohmert was not hers, and Zeeda insists that when she was able, she contacted the show and was put on hold for long periods of time, and eventually disconnected.
Santilli repeatedly slammed Alex Jones and Hillary Clinton. Susannah Cole said that Zeeda Andrews was going “off her rocker” and “at the very least, she is one of the most disorganized people…” Cole said that Zeeda gave Dena the Twitter account, where she could say anything she wanted. Again, true.
“We established with General Lee that we are going to have nothing to do with Zeeda.”
He said that Lee was the only one with any integrity.
He played audio where Zeeda was confronted with the fact that Dena was posting tweets. Zeeda said that she wants to look at the tweets before commenting further. Zeeda said that “Dena can’t speak for me.”
He told Zeeda during the audio,
“From now on, you are going to speak to law enforcement.”
Santilli said that Zeeda was “an extreme diva” who was just hungry for the media attention. He did not want to come forward with this, but she forced his hand by going public with the fact that she was hijacked. He said he “cut the cord” on Zeeda, who was sitting on the side of the road trying to “sabotage” the movement. He implied that Zeeda took donations meant for the truckers.
As Tavern Keepers wrote yesterday,
“Ben and Zeeda are not savvy political activists. They just knew that truckers were getting a raw deal.”
Did Zeeda actively attempt to “sabotage” the group? Considering that this movement was her brainchild, it would be highly unlikely.
Santilli slammed Alex Jones for not telling the truth about the 9/11 terror attacks. “When we found out that Zeeda was dirty,” they gave General Lee the website. Because he has “integrity.”
“Ride for the Constitution” is now owned by General Lee, said Santilli. He also called Zeeda a “f—hard,” whatever that is. Perhaps the author did not hear that phrase correctly.
Santilli said, “Did we hijack the the thing?” But of course he did. He admitted this freely. He said he is loyal to the truckers and the cause. He also said “General Lee is loyal to the truckers.” Did he ever say he was loyal to Zeeda?
He said that anyone who donated money to the truckers should “call the police.”
He said he is not talking about Zeeda anymore.